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      • adam_crates

        Junior Member

        • Jun 2022
        • 2

          #1

          Splitting an ATM order into smaller positions

          Hello fellow traders!

          It would be really helpful if it were possible to split an ATM order after it has been created.

          Example:
          I have an ATM order that opens 2 contracts with a take profit of 5 points. But sometimes I would like to manually change it to remain 1 contract at 5 points TP and move the remaining contract to a TP of 10 points.

          When I am manually adding contracts to a running ATM order, I am able to move SL + TP for each new contracts to another price level. But I cannot do so when the ATM executed with the initial contract size.

          This issue has already been raised a couple of years ago: https://ninjatrader.com/support/foru...g-an-atm-order

          That would be a really nice feature in my opinion Splitting an ATM order into smaller positions NinjaTrader Support Forum (2)

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            • NinjaTrader_Zachary

              NinjaTrader Customer Service

              • Mar 2020
              • 1376

                #2

                Hello adam_crates,

                Thank you for your inquiry.

                In NinjaTrader 8, it is possible to split targets for working ATM Strategies from the right-click context menu of any of the order entry windows. While this can be done in Chart Trader, the SuperDOM, and the Basic Entry window, I've created a video to demonstrate the functionality for your review using the Basic Entry window at the link below;

                You can see from the video that once I select 'Add Target', I then have 2 separate sets of Stop Losses and Profit Targets each with half of the number of contracts. The Stops are all at the same price level, while the Targets are placed 1 Point away. I can then modify both the Stop Losses and Profit Targets separately.

                You may also read about the process in our help guide at the link below;

                NinjaTrader 8

                https://ninjatrader.com/support/helpGuides/nt8/index.html?managing_positions_superdom.htm#AddingOrRemovingTargets

                Please let us know if we may assist you any further.

                Zachary S.NinjaTrader Customer Service

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                  • adam_crates

                    Junior Member

                    • Jun 2022
                    • 2

                      #3

                      Thanks a lot! That makes my trading life a lot easier ❤️

                      I didn't know that I had to right click in the chart trader / sidebar. I always clicked on the position inside the chart itself.

                      Screenshot attached for those who are also looking for this feature.

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                      You can place a custom order by setting order parameters.
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                      This mode is designed for traders who by default, want to always create a new set of Stop Loss and Profit Target brackets (new ATM Strategy) with each new order placed. An example of this would be a trader who wanted a single bracket placed with a Stop Loss of four ticks and a Profit Target of eight ticks.

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                      A one-cancels-the-other (OCO) order is a pair of conditional orders stipulating that if one order executes, then the other order is automatically canceled. An OCO order often combines a stop order with a limit order on an automated trading platform.

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